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Brooklyn Bridge and the (defunct) Fulton Fish Market
New York, NY - Catherine Penfold-Waxman - Tuesday, January 17th, 2006 : goo
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Peter: 17th Jan 2006 - 01:55 GMT
nice score! soon, that will all be gone, im sure. or made into a mall :(
Catherine Penfold-Waxman: 17th Jan 2006 - 16:00 GMT
I didn't even realise that I'd managed to get this shot until I reviewed my day's photos. It was a nice surprise. It was a drive-by at high speeds whilst weaving in and out of traffic. My prediction: Fulton fish market will be replaced by condos that I can't afford. And it will always attract a lot of cats.
jack: 17th Jan 2006 - 16:29 GMT
catherine, please pull over or find a parking spot to take photos. i know on the fdr you cant pull over so get off and circle around. take a few minutes more to get a shot, safely. i wanted to take some photos of the old fish market but you beat me to it. i remember that area from the fifties and sixties. it was old looking then, and a bit of a risque area, if you know what i mean. there were some lovely dames that lived in the area. they wore suits and were quite stylish. inhabited the saloons off the cobblestoned streets. remember, there were apartments from the west side highway over to the east side and around bellevue. these were the young girlfriends of old gangsters, some were models whose careers took a nose dive. they lived downtown because it was cheap. but the evenings were another thing. thats when they went out and sat at the bar, drinking 'singapore slings' and listening to the juke box, thinking about their lost youth. i know, because i talked to quite a few of these ladies and as a young man they took me into their confidence. i was too young to drink so i had a coke while they had their booze. i would dance with them and they could dance! there was lilly, sadie and kate, my favorites. they still looked good at fortyish and had great figures. they wore stockings with garter belts because i could feel the hooks under their dresses. they were girls from the midwest looking for jobs and adventure in manhattan. they always said, 'manhattan', they liked that name the best for their town.
Catherine Penfold-Waxman: 17th Jan 2006 - 16:59 GMT
Wow! Great story, Jack. I'll try to go there to get some real photos. But your story creates better images than anyone could take. I want a singapore sling and to dance in a seedy joint. I've already got a bunch of vintage 50's dresses, so maybe I'm on my way to being a dame.
Peter: 17th Jan 2006 - 18:26 GMT
im sure you could reenact a similar scenario nowadays, but youd have to go over to 11th avenue or the west side highway offa midtown nowadays ;)
jack: 18th Jan 2006 - 20:52 GMT
i often wonder why women stopped wearing garter belts. it was so sexy. when you danced with a women you really felt the female form. the dresses and suits that women wore were exciting. you could see every curve every detail of their beauty. small waists, curvy hips, and voluptous aah aah, you know those two things that every man loves to look at. when i see a women wearing a suit, tight, and curvy, like the one kim novak wore in vertigo, yeah thats it. i go to daydreaming. but downtown was the place for bawdy bars, rough men and gorgeous dames. a fight would always break out and of course my friend tommy would always knock someone out. one night at the 2000 club i was dancing with this babe named sonia. she was going out with a guy named harvey shades and she liked to dance real close. so im dancing with this broad and in between grinds she yells at some other girl because she danced to close to us. "hey bitch, there aint enuf room in this joint for you", well it went something like that and then all hell broke out. i jumped behind the bar with the barmaid and started making out and the guys had themselves a quick fight. those fights would last all but 30 seconds because they didnt want cops coming in. and you didnt want to get hit by these guys. they were dock workers, construction guys, wiseguys and even some irish cops on their own time. they were rough. me i was a pussycat. i didnt like fighting. so i would hide with the girls. lol. it was a strange time in the late 50', and early 60's.
Catherine Penfold-Waxman: 20th Jan 2006 - 13:50 GMT
I hope that Frank Miller reads this. I see another Sin City graphic novel coming on.
jack: 20th Jan 2006 - 15:39 GMT
i happened to see a special on hbo this morning on the ladies that danced on the bowery in manhattan. they're all older now but i remember seeing then in the 40's and 50's in girlie mags that the men used to hide from their wives. these were probably some of the women that graced the bar stools down by the fish market. also, who remembers the 'market diner' under the old west side highway. i have to try and get down there and take a snap of what there is now.
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