Fuck England

Peter: 20th Oct 2005 - 17:32 GMT

exactly... i was thinking this would fit in better with the shankhill road thread better than anything else...

Monty: 17th Dec 2005 - 10:43 GMT

America our friends you elect an idiot as president, plus U.K music rocks.

American G.I.: 26th Dec 2005 - 01:51 GMT

At least we the people of the United States of America vote people into office. You still have a royal family and your excuse for a government is a joke. We fought you twice and saved you twice. Guess what, you are our bitches. The British Royal navy will not build a new Aircraft carrier because they figured they don't need one. AMerica provides her carriers to protect airspace incase WWIII starts. England is America's bitch in gorund forces and in air power too. The Sumpreme Allied COmmander of WWII was American, the Current Sumpreme Allied Commander of NATO is American and has been AMerican since NATO started. England uses American calibers in their weapon systems.

5.56X45mm is American
7.62X51mm is American
.50 BMG is American
And 90% of the missiles that you Royal Airforces uses is American made.

We helped rebuild your nation after WWII, we prevented the soviets from taken over Europe. And infact, you guys copy American Culture.

And Lastly, our crime is lower and we as a free people can posses firearms, drive whatever we want, and talk about our government in any fashion of our choice. You have nothing but a Gestopo type police force with nothing but cameras watching your every move in public.

Your national government can abolish your city governments at any time. And your cops can't shoot for shit. Oh wait, you cops didn't carry firearms untill a short period of time. Opps my bad. And guessed who trained them. American FBI and US Secert Service.

And as a last step. I believe that Ireland should be free of your oppressive rule.

American G.I.

PS - I have served in Iraq with British forces. Those are good men, unlike England liberal youth. And I'm not Irish, I'm Cuban American.

Jamie: 26th Dec 2005 - 08:39 GMT

Thanks GI Joe, you made me chuckle this morning. Much of what you say is quite true. I think your take on the royal family is a little skewed however. Is it a commonly held misconception in the us that they hold real power? Yeah our government is corrupt as is yours. It's all swings and roundabouts mate. And seriously, what use is mudslinging?

Catherine Penfold-Waxman: 26th Dec 2005 - 14:51 GMT

Just like to point out , American GI, that here in the US, the individual (popular) does not vote in the government, the Electoral College vote does. So it is not one person, one vote. And Jamie is correct when he says that the royal family has no power or infuence in the running of the UK. Although they have the right to vote, they never do.
Why are you being so vicious? That's not like an American GI.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Electoral_College

jeeff: 26th Dec 2005 - 15:29 GMT

a lot of chest-thumpers in america and elsewhere seem to sustain themselves with the loud opinion that the world is like a game of risk (Risk_%28game%29. us versus them. U.S. versus them.

i prefer to see the world like this: us.

Peter: 26th Dec 2005 - 20:06 GMT

ahh the cliche wanker/troll shows up to weigh in, offering info that is not only completely off topic for this entry (he surfed in via a search for "fuck england", so is apparently looking for a fight) but also rife with grammar errors... (90% of the missiles that you Royal Airforces uses is American made).

way to go, gi joe. way to bring yet more hate and disregard to the average jingoistic american. its people like you that make me profoundly embarassed to be an american.

i guess ill just have to move to saskatoon now, eh?

anon (host-84-9-74-133.bulldogdsl.com): 30th Dec 2005 - 18:28 GMT

i want iraq to win the war okadar

Random: 8th Jan 2006 - 20:48 GMT

Wow can you state the truth? Most of the firearms in England are either made there or in Europe. Our people are better than yours. Better comedy, the highest you have is Simpsons and Family Guy! What is that? The best music around is ported straight outta UK! Beatles for best band? Yep. Queen with best song and singer ever with Bohemian Rhapsody? You better beleive it.

We also have Robbie Williams, a single artist who made low impact in US, he is better as a single artist than Elvis. I used to cherish Elvis and his music, but then I grew up to realise that it is trash.

Peace maker : 12th Jan 2006 - 21:54 GMT

England has the best music in all good types of music period: Rock: Pop: Progressive rock: Drum and base: Techno: Dance: to be fare the USA is probable the second best produces of music!

In WW2 the Americans where reluctant to join the wining team even thought Hitler was massacring the Jewish people! I think that America has a bigger connection with the Jewish faith compared with England, but we where willing to send in our troops to the front line on our principles! It took the Americans to get a wake up call (pearl harbour) before they did any thing.

The Americans seem to think that they have the tactical upper hand and that the marines are the best army in the world not true. The SAS are the best trained army period:
I remember hearing about Osama bin laden escaping from the marines on a moped
that’s why you guys wanted to go in Iraq because you could not take the fact that a fool managed to get away from your so called smart army, o and daddy wanted little junior to finish off what he fuck up!

As for the so called war in Iraq (that you are losing), the English only joined because we have our major economic ties with you! Going behind to United Nations is not a smart idea! but England is there to try and rebuild the ties with the rest of the world (unlike America). The United Nations was the one good thing to come out of WW2 (which the Americans apparently one) yet they are prepared to risk this for a crusade that has managed to kill more of Iraq ‘s people than Saddam ever did, And when it is finally discovered that there are no WMD’s America says that the reason for the war is promote democracy thought the middle east!

Your self proclaimed god appointed president is a joke though out the world. I think that most English people know about the cocaine problem and the drunk driving, and think that the rigging of your so called elections (yes that is plural) was disgusting. Is this the democracy you talk of, have the masons become that tactless!

You have also managed to split the Anglican church in half!

The African people where enlighten buy the Christian religion this was meant to unite people and make then civilized. Now the American church see fit to change the rules, and has guy priest! (I know you Americans are used to changing the rules and seeing thinks your way) but to fuck with peoples faith is just sick! I have nothing against guy people (I like to keep at least ten passes) but do there really have to become priest? for a lot of Christians the belief that god cheated man and woman (Adam and Eve) is very sacred. The bastardised form of religion that you end up with will unite no one! and make the church look like a joke!

p.s

Thanks for McDonalds

Peter: 13th Jan 2006 - 14:39 GMT

for all your accusations, "peace maker", you might be surprised to learn that the vast majority of americans would agree with you 110%. the power structure in our country is currently peopled by a shrewd, tricky, affluent, conservative minority. we dont all think like them.

also: uk dnb #1.

DnB: 29th Jan 2006 - 20:39 GMT

american GI chats out his ass. America fourt UK twice.....bollocks. and yea UK music is the best. We have the best dj's and producers in the world. I could list about 50 amazing drum n bass and hardcore dj's and i can name 1 american DnB dj who isint very good anyway diesel boy.o yea and pendulum is ok aswell for an american dj but his style is to trancey.america is just as fucked up or even more fucked up than england.if you die or get injured in new york the paramedics have to check your wallet before they take you to the hospital to see if they deserve the better healthcare services.im not sayin that englands healthcare services are any good good because they are completely wank unless you've been taken in by ambulence.if you walk into A&E you are looking at waiting for a good 4-5 hours until they will see you.the worst thing about america is rap music though it is shit.UK DnB mc's have the best lyrics ever apart from hardcore mc's. now im completely going off the topic so il shut up.England is a shit hole but nowhere near as bad as america and ireland is the most fucked up country ever.

President Bush: 3rd Feb 2006 - 11:14 GMT

Your all being constripted bitches!

"he he he im George Bush"

des: 3rd Feb 2006 - 11:30 GMT

we all know england were mother fuckers all thru history,and they think they are the best,FUCK ENGLAND

Cheesy_Member: 3rd Feb 2006 - 14:31 GMT

typical Bush pic, what a spaz of a president - "Like a puppet on a string"

I loved that film Farenheit 911, showed hows stupid, corrupt and uncaring Bush is.

And how incredibly stupid Americans are beliving his constant dribble "WAR ON TERROR" war on terror my ass!!! Any excuse to control the world oil market.

Wonder how easily the "new iraq" goverment change policies to what America want once fully in power?

Its a joke that its possible to get away with what he has done, Bush is is a dictator as much as Sadam!!!!

"Now watch this shot"

Cheesy_Member: 3rd Feb 2006 - 15:09 GMT

President Bush writes a note to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during a UN General Assembly meeting, September 14, 2005: "I think I MAY NEED A BATHroom break. Is this possible?"

Jamie: 3rd Feb 2006 - 15:37 GMT

We Told You We Didn't Want War

Britsh legend: 3rd Feb 2006 - 18:07 GMT

America is a big proud country but in true it is Britian, we found we owned it. you Americans just didn't want to pay taxes and still look at what your doing. Britian has a much history than you Americans causing TREASON, We are born honorably and have one of the best elite tropps the SAS, you have delta force but that even contains SAS

Peter: 3rd Feb 2006 - 19:06 GMT

i think its funny that this thread has diverged into a rant about america and england when the original post was simply a tag put up by one graf writer, dissing another that goes by the name "england"... who are both americans, btw.

its also amusing how people will follow whatever argument they like, regardless of the post.

i mean, who wants to have an america vs. england debate? not me. i think that was covered back in colonial days by dowdy old predjudiced men who are long dead, mostly forgotten and rarely relevant.

kroko: 4th Feb 2006 - 12:00 GMT

yes hurray you english are so great,and smart to,so you pay taxes to feed a queen who does fuck all al day and lives in luxury thank's to you.at this day and age still with a queen yeah your soooooo smart

Peace maker : 5th Feb 2006 - 19:57 GMT

I think peter is Wright we don’t need to debate whether England is better than America!
I do however think that most English people feel a parental responsibility when it comes to American affairs, especially when you manage to fuck up as much as you do! If you are going to crusade around the world (supposedly flying the flag for freedom) then you definitely need to have more tacked and class!
After September the 11th it was only right that you when in to kick the Arabs butt’s , but do you still need to be in Iraq, what ever happens you have fucked Iraq and fucked your self!! I just wait for the prodigal son to return (from Iraq!)

Bush is a monkey plane and simple!

des: 5th Feb 2006 - 20:11 GMT

bush isn't a monkey!he's a redneck,monkeys are smarter then bush

british legend: 6th Feb 2006 - 16:13 GMT

all america is, is the new british empire but with completelty different views and will not stay on top for much longer, EVery country hates your views, even some english (not me personally) and i have feelings if there is a new major war it would be america v.s. the world

tex: 6th Feb 2006 - 16:31 GMT

to british legend
and of course you british would be there by our side kissing our ass as always
ps:stop bulying the irish

GB: 7th Feb 2006 - 01:10 GMT

I beg pardon from kroko, the queen sits on her arse all day. I don't think that is quite true. Although her preorgative powers have been eroded over a few centuries, the queen in fact remains powers to be exercised with or without the PM's advice. Powers to dissolve parliament, go to war, appoint the PM, creat lords and pass legislation still remains but are not often used.

England became a republic before after the English Civil War and that didn't work very well as without a monarch no legislation can pass parliament and a new leader of the country is not sanctioned to law such as Magna Carta.

Also concerning WWI, The US did not formally enter the war until 1917 and did not engage in combat with British and French troops until late 1918 - just before the war finished. I should know, I'm an A-Level History student.

And personally, the British political system is far better than the US's. Indirectly electing a cretin as president, requiring a huge majority just to amend the Constitution.

At least in Britain we have an educated Head of State and an educated government along with a PM that is accountable to parliament and the electorate.

Britain does not need educating from a country that reformed the English language into an appalling state and broke ties with Britain because they didn't want to pay taxes on their cups of tea.

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2009 - Vote Tory - get rid of Blair and don't let the twats of the Liberal Democrat Party nor the Labour one in too.

JJ: 15th Feb 2006 - 23:43 GMT

FUCK USA!!
NOT England!!
U r the bitches...
Ur M.F*

EvilGentleman: 16th Feb 2006 - 06:45 GMT

Wow, what a screwed up debate. I never realized so many Brits shared America's obsession of flag-waving. I have a thought for both the Americans and Brits, as well as any other nationalities that feel they should be inserted in this debate. Patriotism should be defined by appreciating all that is good in your homeland, and those positive things should be able to stand on their own merit. If the only way to bring your country up is by dragging others down, you are hurting yourselves more than anyone, as you are only showing a negative reflection upon your own flags. It is fine to have pride in your home, all human beings should be fortunate enough to be able to feel that, but this negative shit is bad karma, man.

jonnybadboy: 24th Feb 2006 - 14:24 GMT

i am proud to be british proud of my monarchy who are still to this day the rulers of the british empire upon which if noone has noticed is huge if it wasn't for the british empire america wouldn't be the america we know today

Peter: 24th Feb 2006 - 14:32 GMT

once again, this refers to a GRAFFITI WRITER named ENGLAND. not the country. can we get past this lame, off-topic uk-vs-us argument?

Billy: 25th Feb 2006 - 12:05 GMT

Having lived in both the USA and England, let me tell you a few things.

Both countries electoral systems are fucked! None has real proportional representation. And in terms of laws probably both have an equal amount of shit and great laws.

When it comes to crime the British media likes to portray the USA as being a crime ridden shit hole, nothing could be further from the truth. Overall American streets are far safer than British ones. Today Britain is a crime ridden shit hole where thugs do whatever the hell they want.

It's a complete fallacy to say you won't get medical treatment in the USA after an accident if you haven't got medical insurance, by law the hospital has to treat emergencies even if the patient hasn't got medical insurance. You get what you pay for, in the USA you get treated like a human being in hospital in the UK you get treated like cattle unless you go private.

When it comes to lifestyle and quality of life, face it people. Nearly everyone in England is poor by American standards, middle class people in Britain live like poor Americans. British people live in tiny shit houses, drive tiny shit cars and pay a fortune for the most basic of luxuries. My advice to Brits who talk shit about America is that they should go to America and work for a while, see what it feels like to live in a decent big house, be able to afford not just one small brand new car but two nice big brand new cars and a motorbike too! I'm most wouldn't go back after having enjoyed the American lifestyle.

As far as music goes, its entirely personal taste, I for one couldn't give a rat's ass about drum and bass DJs.

Chris: 26th Feb 2006 - 18:49 GMT

billy i dont believe u have ever been to the UK judging from ur... review of it.
I have met many cool americans that apreciate there only allie on the planet and are nice people, then i read shit like this from uneducated low lifes who really need to learn more about history. Take the Falklands for example the only modern war were modern organised armies and navys clashed and the british wooped argentine ass and the conflict only lasted 3 months. America's only advantage in war is there overwealming numbers and they only really seem to have experience in fighting farmers (vietnam) and still they lost...

I get tired of hearing americans saying they saved us in world war 2, hitler wanted to make a deal with the uk saying he would leave us if we stayed out the war but still we said we stepped in when he invanded poland and began murdering the jews, and if we didnt step in and hold him back at the start the nazis would have taken europe and africa and by that time they would have been able with the japanese and other alliances they would have formed they could have taken the rest of the world.
Also British Commandos destroyed the german chances of producing an atomic bomb when they covertly blew up the vermoc heavy water plant which creates 1 of the 2 main materials to control an atomic reaction.
Also if u look to the iranian embassy seige were terrorists took over the building in london u will c what the SAS can do on camera, they stormed the building killing all terrorists but 1 that was captured and saving all hostiges with no casualties... american special forces cant compare...

And its a fact that about half the american population is overweight with one third being obese

I read in the newspaper (although u cant always believe them) that British SAS had located Bin Laden and were ready to storm the cave network that he was in but american forces said dont go in wait for are men to arrive so we can capture him (iam guessin cause they want the glory of gettin him after 9/11) but by the time they arrived and went in bin laden had got away...

and u think you economy is so good lets look at some facts.. :)

More than 34 million Americans are officially "poor," a class including nearly 25 percent of all African Americans and more than 20 percent of all Latinos.

In the US the minimum wage has fallen by about 35 percent in real terms since its peak in 1968.

Fifty percent of New York City's Black males are unemployed

Approximately 1 million African American men under 40 are behind bars. Twelve percent of African American men ages 20 to 34 are behind bars, compared with 1.6 percent of white men in the same age group.

Approximately 1 million African American men under 40 are behind bars. Twelve percent of African American men ages 20 to 34 are behind bars, compared with 1.6 percent of white men in the same age group.

In the past 25 years, one-third of public hospitals in the U.S. have closed, mainly in rural areas and inner cities.

i could go on.. and its so funny when i c americans complaining about imagrants when the only real americans are the native indians

i cant be bothered to type any more.. i was gonna mention about how american forces give so much friendly fire to every 1 because there soldiers arnt trained well enough.

anyways sry if for changing your posts topic i just had to reply to this shit that some people are typing.

Crispy: 2nd Mar 2006 - 00:17 GMT

You know, maybe it's time for this Anglo-American "debate" to end so we all may focus on the real culprit:

France.

Peter: 2nd Mar 2006 - 02:02 GMT

for like the 50th time, you dumbasses, "england" is a graffiti writer. this HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UK, FRANCE OR AMERICA.

shit! do you guys ever read a thread before jumping into it? geez, i mean, for real.

Crispy: 2nd Mar 2006 - 21:54 GMT

I read the thread, saw the way the conversation turned, then replied with a joke.

Yes, I realize that "England" is a grafitti writer, but the subject got changed aeons ago. Get with it Peter, it's no longer October. It is now March.

WELSHY: 23rd Mar 2006 - 15:42 GMT

Well as a Celtic reader to this US V'S UK debate I have to say put down the guns a second and consider.
Yes America did enter the war late 1941 dec after pearl harbour however the US were providing the Uk with help in the form of lend lease, ok we had to pay it all back but then we were in a bad state at the time. Hitler wanted us to ally with them we refused thanks in the most part to Churchill. We must remember that the US did win independence from the UK due to Uk tax legislation that was unfair and unjust. However the US did have France and the Dutch sinking the UK troop ships and harrasing us in Europe as well no other Power has had to fight on as meny fronts over a vast area against all these enemies before. To be fair we did beat the Europeans. However we have too much in common to argue lets not forget that 49% of the vote did not go to Bush so at least some US citizens can think for themselves. The UK is not a poor country thought far from it we are relatively small however we remain one of the worlds G8 and premier in the EU. We are multicultural and accept all regardless of religion. Our Police and Government accept freedom of speech yes there are cameras but if you ain't a crim why worry.

I love the UK especially Wales and Scotland such History and freedom second to none.

I also like the US warm friendly people may not all have a clue about the world at large but that's true where ever you go.

Irish Mike: 24th Mar 2006 - 14:05 GMT

I'm an Irishman born and bred. I lived in the USA for five years in the eighties and for ten in England. I later lived in Japan and Korea and now call China home. So put it this way, I can see all viewpoints here.

England is a shithole unless you're rich. The USA is a shithole unless you're rich. Ireland used to be nice if you were economically average but now it's also a shithole unless you're rich.

The leaders of most western countries are detached, self-interested, coward pussies lobbying to a rich elite. They don't give a fuck about the blue-collar guy and most blue-collar guys know that. Blair is Bush's bitch. Ahern (The Irish PM) is Blair's bitch. They are all of them Donald Trump's and Bill Gate's bitches. Gone are the days of honour. We are all fucked now. The world is a meaningless cesspit of 'war for oil' and lies and bullshit. It was tolerable before the 'information age', but now we are daily confronted by images of what degenerate scum the human species has become (or always was). Watching that nigger Rice defending her 'massa' on CNN makes me want to throw up.

'Muslims'? What a fucking joke. A bunch of backward-ass cave dwellers smearing cowshit on their heads. 'US Republicans' - a roomful of guys from shitass states on the brink of heart-attacks.
Tony Blair - a liar and a scumbag who wanted to be President Of The UK but can't because the person occupying that position is an old lady who doesn't know what day of the week it is and expects her Chateau Latour to be paid for by steelworkers from the north of England. Fuck them all.

As for the guy who wants "the UK to get out of England"?. Pal, not one Irishman, except the most ardent republican 'freedom-fighter' (ie: drug-dealing scumbag gangster) gives a fuck who owns Ireland as long as we can all afford a Jaguar and drug-dealing paid for his, so I guess we're all fucking happy.

Aren't we.

Big REd: 28th Mar 2006 - 02:31 GMT

Irish mike is definetly right, i think were forgetting that england is a graff writer but whatever, the point is everythings fucked up and instead of fighting eachother, we should be joining up to fight against the rich burgoise fucks in power, how many problems have we come up with here about each others country when in fact both of us have gone way past the line of fucked up politics and economies its rediculous instead of bitching at eachother about whose better and why the other sucks, why dont you look at whats happening, the rich corporate assholes have made us all commoniditys and were just bitching at eachother, fuck that lets work on whats wrong with our own countrys and say no more, its time to stop all this pointless bitching and actually be productive, your all acting like a bunch of coffehouse pussies and its time to actually change shit, in anyway possible,what do you think

Crispy: 31st Mar 2006 - 10:12 GMT

First off, let's get away from this living in fear shit. It's driving us all into little virtual cages of our own design and allowing the very people who wish to rape and starve us into submission to have their way, to become richer, fatter, more cavalier with all that by all rights is ours.

Fuck living in fear. Let's just live instead.

grange: 31st Mar 2006 - 18:42 GMT

Peter, I have hand it to you , your better than elaine at getting something going accidently ...lol..
Weird how that happens , I think its the times we live in .

Mike: 6th Apr 2006 - 18:23 GMT

Peter, you are a fuckin' tosser......a cancer of society!!!!
I know my country is shit (England), but who the fuck are you to judge, shit face!!!
What war did your country save us from you dick, did you ever sit and listen in a history class....you cuntwadd??
I hope you choke on your shit, you fuckin' knob!!!

Elicar: 6th Apr 2006 - 19:18 GMT

As I am sitting here, quietly working, munching on Crispers as I had only an orange for lunch (ketchup flavour, don't ever get it!), I thought I'd pop by and see what is going on....

I wonder, what has happened to some people that there is so much self-loathing? Did their parents try to smother them when they were babies? Were they bullied as school children? Or did they ever go to school....Too many questions....I guess we could never find an aswer....

A Proud Canadian: 6th Apr 2006 - 19:27 GMT

I think some people just go out of they're way for an argument.

Tamara: 6th Apr 2006 - 21:39 GMT

Btw. Peter... I love the negative space in this shot!

chiamattt: 6th Apr 2006 - 21:50 GMT

I didn't read any of this. I turned my monitor off and shit on a map of the world.

anon (p54907093.dip.t-dialin.net): 6th Apr 2006 - 22:27 GMT

Hi I'm half German. I live in England and have done for 3 years. I like a lot of the people there, as you do in every country you meet good people and bad people. However, the government in England sucks. Tony Blair is a little bitch (what Irish mike said is right).
Compared to Germany where I lived in the first part of my life. The transport system is bad, so is the health care system, people drink too much and people don't respect your peace and quiet. And Soccer (or Football as you call it there) is everywhere, and when I mean everywhere: it is everywhere. Dad's walk around with team shirts with their kids as if that is they way you should bring up your kids. And there is more violence compared to Germany. A lot more crime, which people blame on immigrants, so that causes violence between racist people and foreigners. Hell, the houses are bad and plumming is bad in houses. And England especially London is far too expensive. They really rip you off. The price of a single ticket in the London subway is same price for travelling the whole day on the German city network.
Otherwise, music from UK, like their rock is cool and so are the people very helpful and friendly (unlike Germany). However the actually respect or distance you get from people is not there.

Chris: 8th Apr 2006 - 16:51 GMT

For fucksake, some people really do make up these huge complex opinions of a country when they dont no shit about it at present or its past.
Any one that lives in a developed country with a pc and internet access and the free time to look at pointless forums and complain about plumbing or there government screwing them out of a little £,$ has no idea what its like to live rough were your every minute is spent making sure you and your family lives another day.... if only there was some honour left in people.

Loco: 10th Apr 2006 - 10:56 GMT

Nice one peter. and im really pleased G.I Joe there gets happiness from hate. guess there has to be someone without morals ey?

Norberto Davino Santorio: 10th Apr 2006 - 12:33 GMT

Ustedes hijos de su puta chingada madre, ni saben ya ni que poner. Por eso el mundo esta chingado como esta porque no se pueden poner de acuerdo un al otro.

anon (p54907093.dip.t-dialin.net): 10th Apr 2006 - 14:42 GMT

I think I'll make a comment on this graffiti here on the picture and then to this forum conversation. There's nothing really special about it. This is the kind of graffiti you get in every city. Just plain black and white, and spreading the a message of hate towards a different country or hip hop musician. Don't know why people took a photo of that one.

"For fucksake, some people really do make up these huge complex opinions of a country when they dont no shit about it at present or its past.
Any one that lives in a developed country with a pc and internet access and the free time to look at pointless forums and complain about plumbing or there government screwing them out of a little £,$ has no idea what its like to live rough were your every minute is spent making sure you and your family lives another day.... if only there was some honour left in people."
I'd really like you to ask this question to the politicians in England or most western countries and how they distribute the countries wealth. Seen as we are scavenging third world country's wealth already, the rich people mostly held responsible, don't even have the descency to share out their wealth. I have read that Britain has as many people below the poverty line that it could almost be called a third world country. And this is really true. Although Britain does possess one the biggest wealths in Europe, rich get richer and poor get poorer. A country can't just simply get richer. If the rich want to make a profit someone's gotta sacrifice and those are the poor.

Salzo Baeza: 11th Apr 2006 - 13:06 GMT

VIVA MEXICO CABRONES HIJOS DE LA CHINGADA PUTA MADRE !!!

Scotland: 15th Apr 2006 - 17:43 GMT

This piece is a beauty go on the americans lol

Sally: 27th May 2006 - 02:36 GMT

You forgot Gerry Adams, the terrorist, and the IRA, supported by America for over 30 years. This man was wined and dined by Americans while we were being blown apart in England and Ireland by American bombs. Sickening crimes. - Supplied through collections by "NORAID" in AMERICA. Clintons adored him, he was welcomed every St Patrick's Day for years until the last year. Thought I would mention this as most Americans contributed greatly to terrorists.

fucku: 27th May 2006 - 20:27 GMT

What kind of crap is this? No living being with more than 2 neurones can feel admiration for The States. On the other hand, UK is pretty respectable

http://www.vexen.co.uk/UK/trashculture.html

Enjoy u suckers

victor almeida: 28th May 2006 - 16:38 GMT

I'am sorry but wy people fight with words against each other ?
I live in the UK for nearly four years, i'am Portuguese and i found good things in this country and bad things like every were.
We need as humans to respect cultures and peolpe with different backgrounds i call that diversity and we should invest more in that.

Sally: 29th May 2006 - 03:24 GMT

Today is memorial day in America. THEY ARE HOLDING PARTIES AND BBQs and HAVE TOTALLY FORGOTTEN THE ABOUT 2 WORLD WARS WHERE I LOST FAMILY MEMBERS, NOT TO MENTION THEIR OWN TROUPS IN THIS LATEST SENSELESS WAR. I HOPE TOMORROW THERE WILL BE A FEW SERVICES AND REMEMBRANCES AS THEY HAVE COMPLETELY LOST THE PLOT. THERE ARE MANY ARTICLES IN THE US PRESS ABOUT THIS TOO. MAYBE NOW, WITH THE IRAQ SAGA, THEY WILL START TO SUPPORT THIS DAY AGAIN. THEY OBVIOUSLY DONT CARE ABOUT THE LAST WORLD WARS WHERE WE DRAGGED THEM IN KICKING AND SCREAMING AT THE LAST MINUTE. TO THE PRAT WHO MENTIONED HOW POOR ENGLAND IS WITH OUR LITTLE HOUSES, LITTLE CARS AND HUGE GAS PRICES, WE ARE STILL RECOVERING FROM FROM THE 2 WORLD WARS. I GREW UP IN BOMBED OUT AREAS OF LONDON LIKE SO MANY KIDS. AND WE WERE REALLY POOR LIVING STILL ON RATION BOOKS. THE YANKS CAME OVER TO ENGLAND (EVENTUALLY) LOOKING FAT, WELL FED, AND ARMED WITH CHEWING GUM AND STOCKINGS. QUITE THE HEROES. OUR CHILDREN WERE SENT TO AUSTRALIA AND OTHER FAR RECHING PLACES AND NEVER SEEN AGAIN. I HATE TO SAY IT BUT YEARS OF BOMBING IN ENGLAND WITH TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES LOST IS JUST AS SIGNIFICANT AS 9/11 IF NOT MORE. JAPS TORTURED OUR RELATIVES - AND WE DID NOT START THOSE WARS. UNLIKE AMERICA WHO IS MARCHING EVERYWHERE CAUSING HAVOC. AND WE STILL SUFFER BECAUSE THE AMERICANS TOOK OUT VENGEANE ON IRAQ, WITH SUICIDE BOMBERS, ETC ON OUR MAINLAND. IF YOU START ON IRAN (YANKS) YOU WILL BE SORRY. YOU HAVE HATED RUSSIA, VIETNAM, IRANIANS, IRAQ AND YOU WILL NOT LEAVE THE WORLD ALONE. JUST GET YOUR NOSES OUT. HELP THE STARVING IN AFRICA, DO SOMETHING USEFUL, INSTEAD OF WASTING BILLIONS ON THE WAR. AND NOW THE JARHEADS ARE ONCE AGAIN ABUSING IRAQI CIVILLIANS. KILLING THEM NO LESS. VERY BRAVE PEOPLE. AND SEXUALLY ABUSING THEM. WE DONT HEAR HALF OF IT. BUNCH OF PERVERTS OUT THERE.

loyal: 30th May 2006 - 21:13 GMT

America is a great place( Well it was till the civil war,) you have no history so you have to cling on to Irish roots which hardly any of you have.you have not won a war EVER but make films as if you kicked everyones arse. YOUR A JOKE!

better: 3rd Jun 2006 - 23:17 GMT

you fucking yanks
England is much better than your country.I have been to the USA before and it is a complete shit hole and all of your people are to fat.England is a much more developed country than yours.Anyway the UK has a much better trained army than your fucking country.Your people are so thick e.g the army-they hold there guns the wrong way round and accidently shoot them selves in the head.If it wasnt for us you wouldnt exist you fucking yanks.

Ken- Boston, Massachusetts: 8th Jun 2006 - 15:11 GMT

The comments I have read here don't surprise me, but they also disturb me. I was born and raised in Boston (where the first shots were fired at the British). I hold a degree in English Literature (this includes all English Literature, i.e American and British). I cannot comprehend the level of animosity bewtween Brits and Americans. I understand that my current president, whom I never voted for, has ruined our reputation in the world. This is not my fault. Blame the rich asses that voted for him. I also concede that many Americans are ignorant and arrogant; Two qualities that never mesh well. But please do not judge an entire country by it's incompetent leader, or it's uneducated masses. I hold the British in high esteem. I have yet to meet a Brit I didn't like. The similarities of our countries and our people are too great to ignore. Both of our governments are corrupt, as are all governments in the world. We speak the same language. I know our dialects differ, but we can communicate with each other without a translator. And most importantly, we're "friends." i diasagree with the Iraq war. That's our bad. But I appreciate the British having our back. When your friend is in trouble, you help. When your friend gets drunk and picks a fight, you still takes his side.

To the British here, I apologize for my so-called countrymen bashing you. Please note that you do have many friends on this side of the pond.

tangent: 8th Jun 2006 - 15:53 GMT

Well said ken. I am british, and i think you're right in your assumption that most british peoples see americans as ignorant, arrogant and xenophobic. But i don't think this is a curiously british attitude. Your government has destroyed your contries reputation throughout the international community. I don't think there are many, if any british who base their US directed animosities on the fact that you kicked our asses back in the day and claimed independence. A great majority are probably ignorant of the facts in any case and know nothing of america ever being a british colony. Generally comments of that nature come from the US side of any debate along with "we saved your asses in two world wars!" heh

I too disagree strongly with the iraq war, and the entire war for oil/war on islam whatever it's called. I think it's plain to see that george dubya is a loon and someone needs to TAKE HIM DOWN with a SHOT TO THE HEAD.

But those with american contacts know full well that not all americans are warmongering religious fanatics, and like yourself, the educated among you quite sensibly despair at the current goings on.

maybe we should all move to saskatoon

Ken- Boston, Massachusetts: 8th Jun 2006 - 17:05 GMT

Very good points Lawrence. Of course, I would never claim that "we kicked your asses and claimed independence. Obviously we won the war, but it is a far cry from kicking your asses. What few american's realize is that England had too much on its plate at the time to effectively fight the war. England was unable to commit enough troops to the war because of it's war with France. Not to mention the economic crisis in England due to the extreme cost of the French and Indian War.

Also, any american who has studied even the basics of history should realize the truths about the World Wars. Yes, we came into WWI at the end, and you might have won the war without our involvement. Then again, with Russia dropping out of the war, the Germans were moving all of their forces to the west front. Fortunately, they were not organized enough to move them efficiently. We did have an effect on the war, albeit not as big of a role as many americans believe. And bear in mind, 60,000 us soldiers died. i know that is a minute amount considering the British losses, but it is still many lives.

We did have an enormous effect on WWII. Britain sustained the worst of it, but the US entering the war was a turning point. And we must not forget that many other countries were involved, i.e. Canada, Australia, etc. We did not save your asses, but rather, we helped you. I think we can agree on one thing though. Both of our countires saved France's ass.

Let us also agree on this: (1)President Bush is a very bad president. I cannot wait for 2008. (2) Both Britain and the US are comprised of generally good people, and with their fair share of bad people. (3) France is no longer a world power and they have a serious inferiority complex about it. (4) And finally, Go Red Sox

Jamie: 8th Jun 2006 - 20:53 GMT

I like how you've sucessfully turned this around onto the french. good call.

anon (88-111-72-44.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com): 19th Jun 2006 - 17:01 GMT

I think britain should turn against america and prepare for war,we definatly have a better army than them all though it numbers less it is proven because they are always blowing eachother up and the british never do that,our SAS would destroy them,and allthough they allways blab on about thier nukes britain has got enough to do a suprise attack with our superior technology and inialate them as they sleep then we could go on and capture the rest of ireland, use them as our slaves,beat them and treat them like bitchs and then blow up the middle east nick what oils left and then we could have our empire back to how it used to be.

Kelsey & Tori: 19th Jun 2006 - 17:06 GMT

definatly
all though
allthough
allways
thier
suprise
inialate
bitchs

A *true* patriot never lets a little correct spelling and grammar stand in his way, eh?

GUS BRENNAN: 19th Jun 2006 - 19:30 GMT

patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel

Ahmed: 22nd Jun 2006 - 06:02 GMT

Quite frankly, the amount of people who have proven themselves to be morons here have been English rather than Americans. The bottom line remains: as an American, you can choose whether or not you agree with a certain state of affairs, but it doesn't make you any less American. As a Brit, however, you either wholeheartedly and stupidly in the most ideological of possible senses think your country possesses some elusive concept of superior, organic and idiotically nationalistic "soul", and thus, somehow, "superiority" (and yes, to the moron who thinks SAS forces are somehow superior to American marines because they are, well, "English", that goes especially for you), or you won't be able to live in that shit-infested sorry excuse for a dumpster nation because, hey, you won't appeal to the hooligan moron majority. The average Brit makes Bush looks like a genius; it's very indicative of the progress of history when the most powerful and democratic nation on earth (s)elects a moron to lead it and STILL ends up looking better than the so-called alternative that is a third-world nation in everything but name, pretending to be an empire.

kevhutchy: 22nd Jun 2006 - 17:24 GMT

r its all about religion and greed..true!so lets stick together and make our short lives enjoyable..friends are for life!!dont forget and dont be too bitter..hope sumone has a good coment to say if not i'll have a few facts about the word we live in and where we all come from
your friend
kev

Norman Miles: 23rd Jun 2006 - 09:04 GMT

Winning a war or stopping a war,I am a Welshman living in China,I have met some Americans,one had a lot of sense,his comment was,we did not win the war, we stopped it.With the Atomic bomb,N.S.Miles

MikeUK: 24th Jun 2006 - 20:15 GMT

Why did you erase my previous message when you you will let a little arab cock sucker like ahmed talk such crap. You are not English and never would be if you lived in UK a thousand years. The only thing weak arabs are good for is holding each others hands and sucking cock. Also at least the average English person is not so backward that they cannot take a shit with out asking their religion how to do it and which hand to wipe their arse with like all arabs and pakistanis.

MikeUK: 25th Jun 2006 - 18:02 GMT

If the English nation is not special, how come they have achived more than any other nation on earth. Been a world power for 300 years, started the industrial revolution and created the modern world, founded 4 other English speaking nations, ruled the largest empire in the history of man kind, one quater of the world. Liberated europe from the nazis and won 2 world wars. English is the world language, football is the world sport (we also invented cricket,rugby and golf every one copies us) English laws are the bench mark for all others. We founded the UN. England is still great, it is the 4th richest country in the world, has the 2nd largest Navy, the 2nd most powerful airforce e.g 250 new Typhoons, the most feared army man for man. Need i say more. When you foreigners criticize England it is like worms criticizing the gods! You are beneath us so we dont care what you think. If England had America's resources we would rule the world. Where as most Americans cant find their own ass with both hands.

Jamie: 25th Jun 2006 - 18:50 GMT

"it is like worms criticizing the gods" - quote of the day. i also like how, in your anti-american speil, you have opted to use the american spelling of the word criticising.

tony ny: 25th Jun 2006 - 22:59 GMT

england is a great country,and so i s america,where i live. if they threw me out of america i would live in england our friends.

Ron Slade (Scot): 28th Jun 2006 - 19:35 GMT

Ha Ha never laughed so much thank you, america saved us, (long paused while picking myself of the floor) thats the trouble with america, think they can dictate, I"I have thee bomb but your not allowed to have one because i want the power, "America saved our ass" .sorry for the pause . you (America) never came on our side till your ass was blown out the water at Pearl Harbour (harbor< American spelling ... cant even get that right ) We like idiots believed your lies about womd < work it out if you can) You show disrepect for ALL the people who gave there lives so we enjoy the "Freedom" we enjoy today. I have a question to ask you. you seem to believe in all nations being freed and returned to there country????? < this means i'm asking a question.... well why don't you give america back to the native Indians who were there long before you.

Peter: 28th Jun 2006 - 19:57 GMT

once again, for the record, this post is about a graffiti writer named "england" and a beef in which he is involved. it is NOT about england (the country) or america (the country) or *pause* even scotland.

so, if you insist on calling someone an idiot, look at who is making inflamatory, unrelated comments about geopolitics on an entry about graffiti before pointing that finger...

lol.

Wulvz: 4th Jul 2006 - 20:43 GMT

Hey American GI. I'm a Brit and here in CA , fucking your women and not drinking your shit beer !! WWAAAHHHH Baby !!

steve: 13th Jul 2006 - 23:42 GMT

England and the US have much in common. One thing being they want the world to know there are "dangerous regimes" out there intent on obtaining nukes : The Uk and the US most definetely have nukes. And no one knows that better than the citizens of Afghanistan,and Iraq, and Japan... Fucking hypocrites.End of story.

jamie: 19th Jul 2006 - 23:43 GMT

i hate to add to this argument but didn't the 'americans' pretty much eraicate the native population of their country back in the day? And the english didn't clear the Gaelic speakers out of their country, they simply moved them to Wales so they could all talk funny amongst themselves without annoying others. But seriously, i'm not sure what historical basis your argument is based on. The english language is a product of successive and constant invasion and conquer over the last few thousand years. it has it's roots in the original gaelic/saxon languages of the british isles, latin thanks to the romans, scandinavian thanks to those viking fellas, french, the list goes on. And as for america not hanging anyone.. America is one of the few developed nations still to use the death penalty is it not.

Harold insideyourmother: 28th Jul 2006 - 09:37 GMT

Comparing the US to "England" or rather the UK is unfair, what would be slightly more just would be to compare one of the US states to England directly. Seeing as England is a state within the UK, do this and we kick each individual state in the gonads. The US gains is strength in number nothing else. It's a mongrel nation of fat weaklings that relies extensively on it's Economy for military power which is bad news for you yanks. The US military should be called China's bitch seeing as the chinks own you economy. Enjoy the last couple of decades at the top yanks.

Davey : 28th Jul 2006 - 15:50 GMT

Harold is right there, the Chinese do own our economy.

But what nations military isn't based on it's economy?

Maria Latore: 7th Aug 2006 - 08:46 GMT

British people who complain about America need to get something through their heads. First, Britain was the original mega-power who everyone hated. Just because we kicked your ass in the revolutionary war and because your so great British empire has completely crumbled. Britain was in its little power struggle with France and Spain and decided to kill Native Americans for their own political and economic gain. In ten years, no one will care about America and we'll just be boring and plain like the Europeans. Oh yes, and Led Zeplin and the Beatles are great, but rock 'n' roll is American music. So is anything else modern. Film is also an American artform. All you have is classical music. New York is the greatest city in the world.

Maria Latore: 7th Aug 2006 - 08:51 GMT

PS England is a great country and I love your culture, okay? We speak your language and Americans don't hate anybody, aside from pigs like Osama Bin Laden and Sadam Hussein. So what if we're sometimes moronic or obnoxious? That's a stereotype and there is nothing flattering about British and French sterotypes. GET OVER IT christ. Our president is a moron, but there's NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT!

EvilGentleman: 7th Aug 2006 - 09:21 GMT

I wonder if England (the graffiti writer) ever got the message...

Nick: 18th Aug 2006 - 22:02 GMT

I'm embaressed by the number of stupid Brits here who have come looking for an arguement, by slagging off the US in the most derogatory, assinine way possible. I'm a Brit and I also *shock horror* prefer Americans to mainland Europeans. Americans, despite a general lack of knowledge of the outside world, are far more friendly towards brits than most Italians and Spaniards.

I find it funny how people are always ready to pounce on Bush and Blair for any mistakes - has anyone noticed that everyone hates their government in every generation and every country. People complain about everything their govermment does, even when they are elected democratically. I find this whining pretty pathetic, although I agree Bush is pretty stupid, I don't think the invasion of Iraq wasn't well founded. Saddam was a violent dictator who purged his own people and the way he conducted the weapon inspectors was sure to stoke suspiscion. I mean you think that they hadn't learned their lesson with appeasement after Hitler. Most Iraqis would rather have a democratic goverment, it's just that hateful minority of extremists that cause all the chaos.

Sorry Peter, but the conversation on a piece of grafitti is pretty limited. Anyway I don't mind a debate, it's just when it descends into idotic sqwaballing. Also Irish Mike and Mike UK are racist cunts. No excuse for that.

Rocker Action: 24th Aug 2006 - 01:54 GMT

The only thing that the Anglo-cunts can hang their collective, socialist, complacent hat on is "smugness".. They know that despite their deep racist opinion of America, they are all slightley better off because of America, and they can't handle that truth.. But somehow, living in England makes you better than an American because: "We have a better worldly view than Americans" so because you holiday in third world dumps like India, and Turkey, your more worldly than us? "We have a national health service for all and take care of our people" You have a horrible excuse for a health service, i would rather slit my own wrist than stand in line waiting for some crap indian doctor who can't speak a word of english.
"We are more tolerant than Americans" as if that is something to be proud of. It's that same tolerance that landed you in the shit in WW2, and now with all those muslim scumbags that you let come and live in your dumpy little country..

Moore: 1st Sep 2006 - 02:10 GMT

Thats a funny picture, but i do somewhat agree with it being that im Irish and would like the british out of Ireland.

the landlord: 2nd Sep 2006 - 23:33 GMT

it's true: fuck england. you should have been dutch instead of being sold for one buck. and about new amsterdam: in your national parcs more weed is found then in amsterdam has been stored since WW2.

Sally: 9th Sep 2006 - 04:12 GMT

That's funny, Moore.

Like you, we would like the millions of Irish out of England too. Reminds me of the joke: Why are the Irish over in England singing about the green grass back home? Because they are all over in UK stamping on our grass.

anon (host81-138-12-194.in-addr.btopenworld.com): 10th Sep 2006 - 23:58 GMT

Going back to April or something, I just have to say that probably the same proportion of blacks are in UK prisons if not higher. I know because I have been inside some. The US and UK are both liveable countries compared with places I have visited like Jamaica and Cuba where the problems, especially in Jamaica are quite disturbing considering what a natural bountiful paradise that island is. We are very spoiled and maniacally driven to secure our interests against those of our neighbors and so we consume and consume and consume neurotically. I think that generally the black man in the 21st century has little use for national borders. That's why the average working-class Nigerian has been to more corners of the globe than 10 or 20 generations of English, Irish or American work-slave redneck.

Andrew Smith: 17th Sep 2006 - 22:55 GMT

Rocker Action - get your own fucking language, you cunt.

Andrew Smith: 17th Sep 2006 - 22:58 GMT

Just joining in the spirit of the thread - peace people.

Andrew Smith: 17th Sep 2006 - 23:16 GMT

No I'm not - we saved your butts in World War 2.

Andrew Smith: 17th Sep 2006 - 23:17 GMT

Shit, no, I mean you saved our butts in World War 2. Cheers, you cunts.

Andrew Smith: 17th Sep 2006 - 23:20 GMT

Let's just get along. I love USA and Uganda and Wales and India and New Zealand and Chile and Cuba and Angola and Afghanistan and ...... well, at least I love the millions of decent people living in all countries. Not sure about some of the Governments though.

Alissa- Some where in the Midwest, USA: 30th Sep 2006 - 01:05 GMT

Being a granddaughter of a Retired Col. of the United States Airforce/ Retired Policital Science Professor, I am proud of what he and others like him (both USA/ English) who fought for freedom of the world, so that we can sit here at our computers and speak so freely without being told what or what not to say. He won't talk about it because it effected him greatly, he was one of the first to fly over Heroshima (Yes, I do spelly horribly) after we (the americans) dropped the bomb. He fought for our country, as well as, others!! I suppose in simpiler terms, we were a team, fighting for the same thing!!

Yes, Americans were horrible, to send the Native Americans to Reservations or to their death, for their land. It was horrible what our anscetors (English born, turned American) did.

All in all, we are one in the same, most of us americans have blood lines tied to the English. (I have English, Irish, Scottish, Norweign, Sweden, etc) Though we, Americans have a horrible president, whom- I believe had an adjenda to do what his daddy couldn't do, take down Iraq, and that 9/11 was the perfect excuse for that. Yes, Sadum was a very horrible man but why aren't the really going after Bin Laden?????

Saw the graffitti, did that before (not those words- Alicat loves suchinsuch). My graffitti is gone now along with the guy I thought I loved. I am now with the love of my life, who is 1/2 Native American/ Italian.

Peter: 2nd Oct 2006 - 14:59 GMT

this thread officially wins "the most off-topic thread evar" award.

anon (host81-132-162-96.range81-132.btcentralplus.com): 12th Oct 2006 - 19:47 GMT

After years of america funding terrorism aimed at england via the ira im quite glad this ambilical cord is starting to sever

To quote the exploited song "Fuck the USA" a sentiment i have held for a long time

nameless: 12th Oct 2006 - 20:28 GMT

Fuck England, because of their narrow minded and hypocritical mentality...fuck the British administration and its NHS medical system...it is fucked up!

Jake: 13th Oct 2006 - 18:25 GMT

If the English medical care is so great, why do the English have such fucked up teeth?

Susannah: 13th Oct 2006 - 18:57 GMT

GUYS this is supposed to be about a graffiti artist, not an entire country of people who you have never met and who most probably never did anything to you.

Jake: 13th Oct 2006 - 20:43 GMT

I've seen all the Austin Powers movies Besides ther teeth name one beautiful English woman besides Elizabeth Hurley.

elise: 16th Oct 2006 - 20:35 GMT

look u american twats if it wasnt for us u wouldnt be who u r today weve helped u so much and whats all this shit bout u havin great comedy fuk u nearly all of the writers that write friend and frasier are ENGLISH becauseamericans hav no sense of humour and they all wobble around coz there so fat and stupid. and im not sayin england is perfect ok coz its not ,nowere is perfect. but u lot need to swallow ure pride and admitt that without us youd be nothing.

JS: 17th Oct 2006 - 21:52 GMT

Why can the English never spell? All I seem to get is incoherent rants that I can't even read because there is no punctuation, and they're only full of racist obscenities anyway.

I am English, and don't kid yourselves - some of you little Englanders are the type who love nothing better than to glass a stranger in anger after your footie team has lost. You are no great asset to England.

My apologies to Americans for all this viciousness. As I said to a man in NY once: 'The trouble is that we English underestimate American intelligence, and you Americans overestimate English intelligence'.

EvilGentleman: 17th Oct 2006 - 22:40 GMT

I find it frustrating that when I ridicule the trash-talkers, my comment gets deleted, yet the prejudiced trash-talk remains. I thought citynoise upheld higher ideals than what I have seen lately. I am getting increasingly disappointed with what I see. Why is this thread still even open?

Editor:: 17th Oct 2006 - 22:59 GMT

sometimes, when free-time is at a premium and there is a rush to clean up 250-500 spam/flame/trash-talking comments in 5 minutes, the good accidentally gets tossed out amidst the bad. believe me, if its happened, its unintentional. all apologies. please dont take it personally. it was just a housekeeping oversight.

and as for this thread, good point. its now officially closed.

it was about graffiti, for god's sake!