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Urban Transgressions and Taboos

- elaine - Thursday, June 16th, 2005 : goo

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ok, what is going on here is - notices warning heavies and police that the squatters know their rights in the first 2, and the inverse, essentially, in the last. 'travellers by appointment' notices are a common enough sight in pub windows. what it is is racist. what looks like a polite enough statement just means, no gypsies (ever)

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Peter: 16th Jun 2005 - 14:12 GMT

this entry reminds me of this entry. gypsies! are they common there? they arent, here.

elaine: 16th Jun 2005 - 14:55 GMT

well, it's history and geography. the romany gypsies are one thing, then there are irish gypsies, and then there are elective 'new age' travellers. the new age travellers came out of a long standing squatting culture which started because of post war housing shortage and mutated into an alternative culture, a tradition of festivals, outdoor music things and solstice celebrationswww.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/06/293935.html, which involved people customising old ambulances and putting up teepees and whatnot.
the government hated all this because it is hard to police people who don't live anywhere properly, and this link www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/06/312477.html tells about a critical juncture of this, the 'battle of the beanfield'. i think the paranioa about that kind of culture grew partly out of fear of drug taking hippy culture growing, but there was a long standing precedent of fear of gypsies which as far as i can see is a fear of anarchy coming out of poverty largely caused by the state itself.
romany gypsies traditionally elect to keep their own rules and to lead an itinerant lifestyle, and are quite literally a separate race www.bbc.co.uk/kent/voices/youth.shtmland they have their own long history here, but the big cultural event here that informs the panic mentality here was the massive influx of starving irish during and after the potato famine en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_potato_famine.
the uk was not as resolutely urban as it is now until after WW1 when entire generations of lads from rural areas were killed for king and country, especially because of the 'pals battalions'
www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwone/pals_01.shtml which meant that when whole battalions went down, as in ypres, whole villages died.
however, before this there was a real rural culture in britain, and a massive influx of transient people at that time set up the conditions of fear of strangers which abide to this day, and informs a big moral panic at the moment about european gypsies coming into the country.
incidentally, my mother's grandfather came over to scotland at the time of the potato famine, and many british people have colours for names because the prejudice against the irish was so severe. they were catholics and my grandad married a protestant girl which at the time was a pretty big deal

kobe: fuckin gypsies!

elaine: 16th Jun 2005 - 17:13 GMT

and did i mention my gypsy blood on my dad's side?

jamie: figures

elaine: in what way?

jamie: in every way

jeeff: 25th Sep 2005 - 21:51 GMT

there was a nice flowery sign at the entrance to a sauna near my house in tokyo that said "foreigners please refrain from entering". too bad i never got a pic of it.

elaine: jamie, name one way then

elaine: jeeff, that was nice and polite of them!

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